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How to land an interim leadership role… if you’re not Elena.

What to do, if you don’t happen to have $10B+ companies begging to work with you.

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Hey, there!

I’ll get the bad news out of the way up front: This one is not from Elena. This is Jonathan Yagel. If you’ve seen my name, it’s probably at the bottom of Elena’s newsletters, because I help her edit them. Or maybe because of that one time I set a world record for the most high fives in one minute 🙌 😂.

No, yeah, probably just from Elena’s emails.

Anyway. The good news: I’m what you might call an Aspiring Elena. While she’s practically swatting away opportunities because of how popular she is, I’m… not. Yes, I’ve been a marketing and growth exec at B2B startups (not at decacorns like Elena has, though, come on) and have since left the world of full-time roles to focus on advising, consulting, and interim roles. I even have a (tiny) newsletter! But I don’t teach amazing Reforge courses or have a massive following or create the industry’s favorite memes. (… “yet!” I just said, to myself, but even that feels a liiiittle cocky.)

Maybe you can relate?

So, Elena recently posted her e…

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I read a lot and share the best insights I find. I write about storytelling, prioritization, and good questions. Work: Marketing at ClickUp ⬆️ Passion project: Editing newsletters ✍️
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